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After thinking about it I basically have very little game. I open direct and have to hope one of the following things happens:
1) She finds me physically attractive
2) I get lucky and somehow say the right thing
3) She’s desperate/new to town/on vacation
Is it basically agreed upon that street approaching requires a direct approach? I agree going direct definitely doesn’t lead directly into conversation, seeing as I don’t know what to say next, but it is easier to have a conversation with a girl who is stopped then one who is walking.
Lee you say I have to do situational banter to get to where your opener gets but is it a good idea to have a scripted transition that does what your opener does? Just winging it has never worked for me and doesn’t allow easy improvement.
If I’m going to get to topic 1 after going direct could I just do something as simple as just asking her how her day is going and then whether she asks me or not, say: “I’m beat up from work. I’m a mechanical engineer and I am working on this 3d printing project…” Then elaborate on why 3d printing is cool and why I like it. I tend to think the stuff I do is interesting to people but I also am afraid of sounding like a nerd sometimes.
Playboy I think I definitely use my approach to convey sexuality. I generally fall into the friend zone easily and I want to get out of that.
To answer your question my issue is having good conversation that builds attraction. I can have boring conversation that ends with the girl saying she has a boyfriend or whatever. I think I can be somewhat robotic with my conversations.
In terms of having conversation with strangers, I’m not that bad at it but I don’t do it very often other than through approaching. If I get into a conversation about the weather or if some place is busy today I feel like shooting myself. Honestly I don’t have very many friends either so I don’t really even have much conversation in general.
When I am situational and I comment about something she is wearing, what she is doing, etc. I don’t know where to take it.
Let me get more specific if I may. I live in California and there is this main street by the beach that is riddled with hot girls walking around. I basically chase them down and say this: “This is really random but I saw you back there and you are really cute and I had to stop you and say hi.”
I think this situation calls for being direct and there are a variety of reasons I don’t want to change my venue. Lee I know you think
indirect is the way to go but I’m 28 and I think I still have some mileage on this opener. I’m open to suggestions on the opener and how I can improve it but I’m thinking the basic premise of it won’t change. I’ve heard the “fucking delicious” opener and I guess I feel like it weeds out a lot of girls who I would want to talk to.
I’m sure there’s a lot I could tinker with in terms of body language and delivery of my opener but let’s say that I deliver the opener and then shake her hand and introduce myself. At this point if I have her attention what route should I take?
Is flirting mostly improvised or do you have a few lines that you like to go to, especially early on in the interaction? It seems like it would be better for me to have something scripted so I can say something flirty right away. I exclusively do day game and I feel like most interactions last two statements and then she’s gone.
Maybe I’ve just had weird luck lately. But either way I am definitely getting into too pleasant of conversations and I need to do what you said and at least flirt once or twice per conversation.
For being physical during the approach I like to cover the following: shake her hand when we meet, high five, touch her on the shoulder, then hug her. I can tell how much she is into me by how hard she hugs me. In terms of dates well not much of a sample size there in recent history. I had a really bad first date a couple weeks ago. I hugged her and touched her on the leg but she seemed like she wanted to get out of the bar ASAP. The other first date I had we had sex and I ended up dating her for a few months so definitely did well there.