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as far as what you said “it gets me nowhere” i suggest you let your hands do the talking. especially when it comes to women.
funny enough, yes I talk to all of them the same. even boss and mom. They don’t change me one bit. only difference with girls is i escalate physically but that’s the only difference. I even give my boss lay reports he likes listening to my stories. i even talk about game with girls i go out with. and i talk about my other passions etc. if I encounter someone that doesnt like the way I am I next them (well except for parents i mean). but other than that there’s plenty of choices in the world you know. for every girl that doesnt like what im about there’s another that does.February 20, 2015 at 4:44 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72891
^^^ mistake above in “hell, you even tell her that you’re not about sex.” meant to be “hell, you even tell her that you’re not about relationships.”February 20, 2015 at 4:32 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72890
equilib, yeah some good points here. yes I was in a few ltr’s but the method I mentioned above isn’t really about that. that’s what I wrote about it to show that what he wrote about hot girls wanting -only- relationships is false. people have different “what they want” stages in life. and they switch all the time:
the two roles are:
1. I want a relationship
2. I want to fuck
they don’t have to be mutually exclusive. but generally, you can make them be mutually exclusive if you don’t give the girl anything to base you on as far as being boyfriend material. and of’course girls have their “fuck” moments. sometimes they just want some dick. it happens all the time.
but the moment you make yourself known as more bf material then anticipate both her and yourself to start judging eachother more. this can of’course be detrimental to sex. for example, let’s say you’re looking for an LTR and one of the “checklists” that you have is that the girl atleast went to college. that means if you find a hot girl that didn’t go to college, you’ll next her. but if you’re just looking for sex, of’course you won’t.
so basically. know what role you’re in. I had a time where I didn’t want a relationship because I got out of one, and all I wanted to do was live out my childhood fantasies of having loads of sex with many different girls even girls that weren’t “right” from me. so girls of different social classes, girls with personalities that weren’t a good match for me, different races, girls of different ages, and so forth- just cause i wanted to experiment.
so i became just interested in sex. for girls that you aren’t interested in the long term with, that’s how you can get as much sex as you possibly imagine. because nobody judges eachother in this role.
you essentially do everything that indicates that you’re NOT boyfriend material. heck, you can even tell them that you’re not looking for a long term relationship they’ll probably suck your dick then and there.
hah, this reminds me of another story. a few years back, I remember back when i didn’t know what the hell i was doing. when i’d play stupid games with girls. so I had this girl that I met at a bar. we would play stupid games with each other. like sometimes i’d txt her but she wouldn’t answer. sometimes she’d txt me but i wouldn’t answer. and so forth. I think we met up on like one date or something where nothing happened. at tha at point i wasn’t even aware i should “Escalate” etc. (i was a newb). anyway, I think she wanted a relationship with me so she was teasing me. i guess it was her way to be “high value” or something. but quite truthfully i didn’t want a relationship with her just cause i wasn’t really in that stage of my life to want one, but she was a hot good looking girl. i remember she told me she wanted to talk one day before she went to her work party. and she told me, “I find it hard to read what you’re wanting from this. are you looking for a relationship or just a fling?”. and i’m the type of person that just can’t lie to people especially when they ask me something so blatant. so i just looked at her. “I just want to have sex with you and nothing else.” so she looked at me dumbfounded and she left to her party.
i’m not even kidding you, the same girl that was playing games with me for the last few days, about 2-3 hours later after we had that conversation I get a simple text message from her: “i’m coming over”. she came over, we immediately started making out, and fucked like rabbits. go figure.
so basically.. if you don’t take her out, you don’t go to a restaurant, you don’t buy her anything. instead, you make it to be all about sex, you just escalate, you’re very sexual around her, etc. hell, you even tell her that you’re not about sex. You’ll find that there’s so many girls that are looking for just that. even girls that are looking for relationships don’t “mind” to just have a random sexual fling just to “release”.
the power of this is that girls that won’t be normally attracted to you in an ltr won’t be as judgemental because they know that you’re just going to be a small part of their lives. and girls that ARE looking for an ltr, also won’t judge you or give you as much of a hard time cause they just see you as an easy layup, ie a walking human dildo.
it’s kind of like the mindset people have in vegas or other travel destinations where they know they’re probably not gonna meet their next wife/husband so their criteria become a bit more lax. but you can do this even in your local town by just giving off that vibe.
now what if i was looking for an ltr, would I do the same thing? what if I found actually found the girl of my dreams, the girl that checks all the notches? the girl that I actually think there’s a real potential with? where LOVE rears its head. and yes, I do believe in love. :>
quite truthfully, I wouldn’t have to do much. love conquers all, it’s the killer of game. it doesn’t matter what you do. you can have sex with them in the first date. or you can have sex with them after a month. love knows no boundaries. if you’re right for eachother, you both will pretty much forgive eachother no matter what happens. so being sexual won’t really hinder it. but quite truthfully, I probably WOULDN’T want to JUST be sexual with a girl like that. I’d probably want to take my time, and take her out, and just spend time with her, and talk to her, and hang out with her, and stuff like that.
But if you treat all girls like that, they get a mixed message. they start seeing you as a potential bf they start judging you etc. so if you make a wrong move, they just stop talking to you. and you definitely won’t get sex.
so to sum it up, this depends on the girl. and what i’m after. my default mode is “sexual” but if i spot a girl that I do see a potential with, I ease up a bit. for girls that I don’t see a potential with, I crank up the sex. if that makes any sense. hah.February 19, 2015 at 5:57 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72887
One of the things I’ve learned especially about people is that you’re not gonna change their opinions about things. Instead, I’d rather talk to people that actually understand what I’m talking about. Just like I’m sure there’s those that vibe with what you’re saying as well. That’s what my whole ‘The Mindset’ post is all about. And how due to the sheer magnitude of people in the world you’ll always find people that agree and go along with what you’re saying or doing and some don’t. Just like musicians that polarize different people in the world where some like their music and some hate their music, regardless those musicians become millionaires (for example, think of jay-z and how many people can’t stand his music yet how many people love his music). It simply appeals to different tastes. Finding people with similar interests and avoiding people that differ in their opinions is really the only way forward to avoid wasting time and finding harmony in life. So I’ll just end this with “you’re right, have a nice day”. 🙂February 19, 2015 at 3:02 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72885
Yeah.. I bet the women you talk to would also find it exciting that you’re having essentially the same conversation to the letter with all of the other people you engage in about the brothers kasmorov or whatever the heck that book is. that im sure noone in this forum has heard of much less doe eyed 20 year old co-eds. why not be, you know, normal? where you don’t have to make a hollywood scene script with every woman you talk to?
anyways congrats on dumbing this arguing down to what we can all agree on: to have a back bone and seek the women that you actually like.
but back to the argument at hand, you said that hot women only want relationships, not sex. if anything it’s the hot 20 somethings that are looking for wild nights of orgies and the 30 plus crowd that is looking to get shackled up because of the biological clock. dont get it twisted.
That’s being assertive. I was mainly talking about how people see qualification as something they “need” to do to get the girl. As a technique.
I talk to girls just like I talk to anybody. They do not get special treatment. And I’ve found that it works just as well. So just like I talk to a friend, I’ll bust on them. but I don’t overdo it because they’re a girl and I won’t underdo it because I’m not assertive. They just don’t get any special treatment really.
The only difference is that I’m making moves on the girl.. through touch and flirting. but I’m definitely not changing my personality for them. And when people start talking about “qualification” like it’s some kind of technique they have to run, that to me is try-hard and LAME.February 18, 2015 at 11:58 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72877
I don’t know about you, but it takes me a very short time to assess the type of person I’m dealing with and deciding if I should pursue them or not. I’m talking in the minutes here.
I’m pretty sure it’s the same for other guys, like Hurricane. The girl he gave an example with the dialogue for the book. That was a phony challenge. Meaning, she could’ve probably answered that in any way and he would still be pursuing her. The argument here is that he’s doing that for her, not for him. Meaning, he wants to “qualify” her. Kind of like in that article you gave with TenMagnet. These are guys that know they want to hang out with the girl yet they create scenarios for perceived value mainly so the girl can see that they’re “choosy”. But it’s an illusion.
So my assumption for what we’re talking about here is that you’re actually interested in pursuing the girl. Now how do you go about and get her? All I’m saying is that I don’t need to bullshit them. They know you want to fuck them. They just prefer guys (from my experience) that don’t hide behind that fact.February 18, 2015 at 11:43 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72875
yeah but that has nothing to do with skeptical that’s just recognizing that you’re a person with value and they’re a person with value too. why degrade them to feel good about yourself?February 18, 2015 at 11:18 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72873
guys that are truly valuable dont need to make up stories about value. think elon musk or hugh hefner or einstein or michael jordan or bill gates or anybody of great value. their value is in what they’ve accomplished in life not in knowing how to “game” people.February 18, 2015 at 11:11 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72872
What you’re describing as challenging is different. You can call girls out on stuff sure.
But he’s taking it to a whole new level. What he’s saying is phony. He’s acting like he has no sexual interest in a hot girl. He’s actually convinced himself he isn’t because he Thinks that’s what girls value. He’s taken his true nature out of himself.
but i can see through it. I know it’s fake. put him on an island with a hot young girl and I want to see him act like he’s not interested until she “proves” herself. what a load of crap.
the only value you have is your honesty. if you can’t even get that right what value are you left with? the ability to tell a story?February 18, 2015 at 9:10 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72870
Now, if you want a life-long partner? be skeptical. be VERY skeptical.
But if you’re a man that just wants some adventure in his life. sheesh. that’s the worst thing you can do.February 18, 2015 at 9:04 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72869
@MrA NO. You don’t understand. The differences in these mindsets here are huge. I’ve seen this argument play out so many times, even in other forums. This argument was the crux of what I figured out for myself throughout the years. In fact, I was doing exactly what Lee’s preaching years ago. Qualification was a thing that I really bought into. Like completely. Then I completely changed my mind about it. And now I think it’s all a bunch of junk. In fact, I know it is. And there’s nothing that sabotaged my successes more than buying into that line of thinking. The fact is, you’ll get what your mindset dictates. Skepticism? I told you that it’s very weird and unnatural to be skeptical of a hot chick, esp if all you want is to get laid. It makes no sense to me. Lee sees a hot blonde 21 year old playboy playmate and asks her “well.. what do you have to offer me?”. To me, that’s being dishonest. And he’s only doing that for her perception of him. To me that’s plain phony. And worst, it just wastes time.February 18, 2015 at 5:18 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72866
well that I can agree on I never said anything about kissing up to women. If anything my behavior is self serving I don’t do much to try and please them. Besides offerring sex is not the only thing I’m about I have my own passions and interests. But I’m just saying that if it’s about sex I can get it pretty easily. I know women’s secret.February 18, 2015 at 4:34 pm in reply to: What women really want – The science not the bullshit #72864
Getting asked out, or asking girls out, or getting numbers, or any of that stuff doesn’t equate to lays.
I think Lee might provide a great stimulating conversation with girls so they want to hang out with him. (mainly because I’m sure he’s had that conversation many times before, kind of like reading a hollywood script). But having a conversation or a date doesn’t equate to having sex.
Sorry Lee, but what you’ve said just blows my mind.
“She can get sex any time, just by approaching the hottest single guy at the bar and saying “Hi”.”
No she can’t. A woman doesn’t approach. A woman doesn’t lift a finger when it comes to actually trying to meet guys. And second, the men who do approach her are more often than not people she doesn’t want to have anything to do with. And most men don’t view themselves as sexual. Most men repress their sexuality and try to appeal to the woman’s intellect. There’s simply hardly any real men left in this world. Everyone’s a complete and utter politically correct mangina. The majority of men “approach” women in online dating or when they’re drunk in bars. And the ones that do approach need stupid forums like these to sing kumbaya to eachother in order to get over their quote “fear” of approaching women. fear.
“What is a common theme in so many of these studies is that the more attractive the woman, the more she wants committed sex with one man.”
this is complete nonsense. and the fact that you buy this shows me that you don’t get laid much. The stories that I’ve written above are just the tip of the iceberg. If you experienced what I’ve had you’d know this is complete and utter bullshit. I’ve been with plenty hot girls that didn’t want anything close to a relationship, that just wanted a sexual fling. In fact, they slept with me the moment I told them that I wasn’t looking for any commitments. There’s *ALL* sorts of girls out there. There’s so many personalities you can’t possibly just pigeon hole them. It’s complete garbage. The people that wrote that article I’d probably slept with more women in the last year than they have in their entire lives, I could bet anything on that. So I don’t need any bullshit “scientific” studies to tell me what works and what doesn’t.
p.s Cartoox, translate everything in that article to where the boring guy just doesn’t try to fuck her.