Which product is recommended for improving your conversation skills with women?
November 9, 2014 at 9:23 pm #72262
Like if you are a person that easily runs out of things to say or talk about with women in conversation, keep the conversation going, keeping it alive and interesting so the girl doesn’t get bored, is that discussed in the e-book “She’s 6-steps Away”?, because i’m strongly considering getting the e-book after seeing it’s very strong positive reviews on DatingSkills.com, it says doesn’t cover the topic of flirting or attracting women, in terms of getting any success beyond just approaching, the advice here is quite limited.
That’s the review by Jackson Hunter, but i’m wondering if that is not really an accurate review for him.
For me when it comes to approaching women, I tend to have an easier time approaching a girl when she is alone, and not any other people are around her, and usually wish I feel I use the standard common sense openers or questions to get a conversation going such as introducing myself, exchanging names, a simple Hi how are you doing, are you from around here, what do you like doing for fun, etc. I believe girls want guys to say something that makes them stand out when getting a conversation flowing and keeping it going, I also want to be able to get better at asking open-ended questions to girls so I can prevent the girl from just giving one-worded answers, although I know if a girl gives one-worded answers it can be a sign that she is not interested, or if i’m just not asking the right questions, as in not asking open-ended questions.
Anyway, a little bit about me, I’ve never had a girlfriend before, although i’m not a virgin, the only way I got laid was with a friend with benefits last year but to be honest I lowered my standards in order to make it happen, and i’m sure I could have had a girlfriend a long time if I lowered my standards, but anyway, is the e-book highly recommended if you are a guy that has never had a girlfriend before?November 9, 2014 at 10:50 pm #72264
just wondering if the e-book “She’s 6 steps Away” goes over conversation skills and building rapport with a woman, escalating beyond the approach? if that review on DatingSkills.com was not good enough?November 10, 2014 at 2:10 pm #72266The_HurricaneKeymaster
I see social dynamics as having two distinct parts. The first part is social comfort and the second part is game. Social comfort is the ability to comfortably approach women and engage them in conversation. If you’ve never been in a relationship before, you’re probably not good at this, and if you face additional impediments, it will take you longer to master this part. If you’re particularly good looking (or otherwise have some form of status or value), you can meet and date women just by being socially comfortable and approaching enough women. That’s what we see in most of the online videos of attractive pickup coaches approaching women, engaging them in (mostly) ordinary conversation, and successfully getting their numbers. However, for the rest of us, social comfort is not enough, and we need game. Game is that process of flirting, taking chances, and challenging women. Eric’s book is deliberately a little short on game because his focus is social comfort. If that’s already the stage that you’re in – the stage where you can comfortably approach women and engage them in long, comfortable conversations – and you’re looking to supercharge your interactions with game, then maybe Eric’s book is not perfect for you. On the other hand, if you’re just starting out with approaching, there is no better step-by-step guid than Eric’s book. It is the only systematic approach to getting socially comfortable and approaching women.
–LeeNovember 10, 2014 at 2:44 pm #72267ryanoParticipant
you don’t need to learn how to talk to women. they’re no different from the multitude of people you’ve talked to throughout your life. the only thing you need to learn how to go for what you want without shame and have the girl leave if she doesn’t fit that bill. I’ll write a post about this soon.November 10, 2014 at 5:23 pm #72269
Then I wonder what is the best action plan to take in order to learn how to get a girlfriend, know the step by step process of getting a girlfriend since obviously guys have to be the initiators, I wonder why being the initiator, approaching and talking to girls in a way that makes them attracted to you, see you as boyfriend material, never came natural or instinctive for me, because it looks like it is natural and instinctive common sense for most guys by their late teens and early 20’sNovember 10, 2014 at 5:35 pm #72271The_HurricaneKeymaster
Start with the book. You can’t meet anyone without being able to engage women in comfortable conversation. As for how good other men are at this, most are very bad. The average man approaches only a few women per year, so how good can they be? Between online dating, social circles, family, workplace, and religious institutions, most men find a way to meet women, but it has nothing to do with how good they are at social dynamics. You are an outlier, just as – for most of my life – I was an outlier. You can improve a lot by overcoming approach anxiety. You should also pay attention to opportunities in all of the above mentioned areas. You will find that you will do better with those opportunities after you’ve worked on your social comfort.
–LeeNovember 10, 2014 at 6:46 pm #72273
I know its wrong to compare yourself to others, and people will say “who cares what those other guys are doing, focus on you”, yes I know that, its just that obviously the overwhelming vast majority of guys get, experience having their very first girlfriend by their late teens and early 20’s, and I know people are going to say there is no cut off point or it is not a race, I am aware of that as well, its just that the fact that most guys experience having a girlfriend or a decent amount of sexual experience before age 25, it makes me wonder if most guys are naturally instinctively born with the confidence, social-skills and conversation-skills, flirting-skills, “game”, that is essential, imperative for success with women, getting a girlfriend, etc., or what did they do in order to acquire the ” game”/ or ability to know how to get a girlfriend, did their dad teach them or was it their social upbringing? I know we can’t change the past and it is not good to dwell on it, our past does not dictate our future, just if I ever have a son someday I want to make sure he doesn’t end up being a late bloomer with women and dating like I was, overall it just seems for most guys knowing how to get a girlfriend is common sense for them in their teen years and early 20’s since most guys are experienced by then
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