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MrAntiquity
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@Lee

I think you’re right. One problem though is that the current incarnation of feminism (and I’m certainly one too in that I support to the utmost degree equality between the sexes, more women in science, high level positions, etc.)

But the rape culture framing we’ve seen lately means that you can never bring up the idea that “no might not really mean no”. You know that political form I directed you guys to? YOu’d NEVER be able to say that on there even though it’s true. What “no” means is stop then. BUt it doesn’t mean things might not change a little bit later.

I’ve been wondering how to talk about that kind of thing in left-wing circles (I’m a liberal myself) and to be honest I”ve given up.