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Lee, I’m not saying you’re wrong at all. If it works for you then it’s all good. But research studies? cmon who cares really. I’m talking about my own experiences here. I could care less what some uptight social scientists do. They sit in a secluded room in a university and come up with theories. I’ve approaches thousands and dated hundreds I’ve put in the work.

so maybe we can agree that there are many different styles of game out there. And of’course we have different personalities as well as being in different stages of our lives. There’s no one size fits all here.

I’m just trying to give a different viewpoint on this to newbs on this board. I’ve done this now for 4 years, putting everything I have in it, I’m talking about hours and hours every day chasing and dating girls. So I know what I’m talking about.

Now in my case, I found that girls aren’t very good at being the hunters. They’re just horrible at it quite frankly. Therefore, I don’t rely on them to do that. So I do it myself.


It’s not so much numbers based. If I take a girl out on a date I usually have sex with her or at the very least a makeout. Actually, I can’t remember the last date I went on where I didn’t make out with a girl. And what I told you about the “pillow” thing is not about abundance. It’s moreso dominance and understanding that girls expect a man to take the lead on things because they’re horrible at leading anything themselves. In fact, their whole essence is passive. That’s why I have a hard time understanding Lee. Here’s an exercise. Sit anywhere, coffeeshop, bar, wherever. And wait for girls to talk to you. Chances are you’ll be waiting a lifetime and they won’t (and winking at her or smiling at her, or taking some kind of initiative doesn’t count). Another example is go on a date with a girl, talk to her about some subject. Wait till she “escalates” ie try to see if she ever goes beyond a conversation. She won’t. She won’t EVER do that. As far as she’s concerned she’ll talk your ears off for 2 hours and then go home. I’ve found after hundreds of dates that women seldom initiate anything beyond a “safe” conversation. So I don’t rely on them to take the date where I want it to go. I initiate and they either go with it, or they don’t – in which case I find a different girl to date. Because one thing I’ve found is that there are MANY girls out there. So maybe you’re right about the numbers thing in this case.

Lee and I have different styles. Like there’s many different styles in fighting. But don’t think that there’s only one way to skin a cat. A guy with a given personality needs to choose the style that fits himself.