Bond flirting – Does this feel comfortable? :-)
January 22, 2015 at 9:11 pm #72561January 23, 2015 at 10:43 am #72564
Somehow the video doesn’t seem to open, could you post the link please ?
Thanks !January 23, 2015 at 12:39 pm #72565
I don’t know if “uncomfortable” is the way I would think about it. “uncomfortable” suggests awkward–to me, anyway. This scene is definitely not awkward–it’s tense. The feeling is sexual tension, which is a primal feeling but not a negative one. Like something has to happen or everything will explode. For any musicians around here, it’s the diminished chord of social interaction 🙂January 23, 2015 at 1:45 pm #72566January 23, 2015 at 1:52 pm #72567
For most people, comfortable means relaxed, easy going, free of tension. This scene is adversarial. He lets her know in the first sentence that he thinks she’s hot, but after that, things get murky. His read of her is loaded with contempt. Not feminine enough. Insecure. The tension is exactly what tells you they’re going to wind up in bed. What would pleasant chit chat tell you? That’s right, nothing. Pleasant chit chat is what gets you into the friend zone.
–LeeJanuary 23, 2015 at 4:29 pm #72568
This is very, very useful as a reference point; as something to aim for. Lee, do you have some other ones which you can post, if you have the time? I still feel unsure to identify these myself as I might be looking for the wrong thing.
ZhelyazkoJanuary 25, 2015 at 3:40 pm #72577SomeguyUKParticipant
I think Tony Stark in Iron Man flirts really well in this style too. Here’s a good example (the last line is a killer):January 25, 2015 at 4:39 pm #72578
Thank you @SomeguyUK
He’s very good. It still feels like banter, but charged, sexual banter. Not just something for the sake of being funny, but rather banter as a means of getting sexual.January 25, 2015 at 8:12 pm #72579
yeah, I’d say the last one is mostly banter–except for the last line which completely ups the ante. IF not for that last line, that bedroom scene doesn’t happen. In the Bond one, the antagonistic sexual chemistry is played up almost from the beginning (and some of that has to do with her as well as the directing–even the way Eva Green sits down is subtly suggestive, although the Vanity Fair approach isn’t)
Actually, though I don’t feel much tension in the Iron Man clip until the last exchange–so I don’t know if I fully buy what happens. There’s a lot of challenging in that clip, which is good, however.January 25, 2015 at 9:58 pm #72580SomeguyUKParticipant
It’s the way he is so bold and aggressive that is great; he is not afraid to take a risk. If you were to say something like that in real life, it would be a real polariser!
Have any of you seen the film ‘Nowhere Boy’? The John Lennon character is so cool and dominant with the ladies, he is very believable as someone who has a lot of women after him.January 26, 2015 at 12:22 am #72581
Haven’t seen that one–although the Tao of Steve is another great one..January 26, 2015 at 10:48 pm #72583
The thing about the Bond clip is that it’s almost a pickup formula. He tells her she’s hot right away: when she says “I’m the money,” he says, “Every penny of it” while totally ogling her. He calls her out on her sarcasm, then disagrees with her about how poker is played. Then he does a cold read on her, complimenting her on her looks but negging her at the same time! This is classic negative game, as close to pickup as it gets.
–LeeJanuary 27, 2015 at 7:02 am #72586
I like the clip from Die another day, when Halle Berry first steps out of the Ocean and Pierce Brosnan is checking her out…
Pierce Brosnan’s expressions, and leadership of the conversation, are just superb, he does not react much to her, rarely has more than a slight smile, and keeps upping the tension thru sexual innuendo regardless of how awkward it may feel ; also there is Zero approval seeking/apology in his approaching, on the contrary he maintains the slightly skeptical unreactive persona the whole time)
eg :when she says “if I had the time to enjoy it” ,
He : how much time do you have ? – almost deadpan expression
She: till dawn….what about you
He : ( instantly changing topics on the conversation – the push ) – oh, I’m just here for the birds, – ornithologist
& the initial opener, with a dead pan face
He; Magnificent view
She: sizes him up , then internally approves, and says “ yes, too bad its lost on the others “
He : ( does not react to her comment -which actually agrees with his situational? opener- & changes tack, maintaining leadership ) , instead offers : Mojito ?
The comment about predators feasting was awesome…..January 27, 2015 at 7:10 am #72587
i was ready about Bond Creator Ian Fleming…apparently he was a ladies man and Bond’s character and attitude towards women are actually pretty much how Ian Fleming played it…He modeled Bonds relationships with women after himself…
and he was pretty successful with women even before he had any novels written…January 27, 2015 at 12:38 pm #72588
These examples are really helpful. The more you have the better. I find it easier to mimick successful behaviours than to understand how to apply them from written text. Basic human trait I guess, imitation.
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