Affirmative Consent Contracts

[TayBurnz50]

I was interested to hear what you guys thought about Affirmative Consent Contracts:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420870/college-affirmative-consent-contract

This kind of stuff is scary to me. Seems like this is going to lead to many sexual assault accusations of innocent guys.

Tay

[MrAntiquity]

Don’t worry about them. It’s a fringe movement (that you’ll probably bump into at a couple of CA universities). The National Review is making a lot of noise about it because they’re a right-wing media outlet and they hate the “new” feminism (which isn’t really feminism at all. I think both sides are a bunch of loons.

The idea is that women get assaulted too much (which is completely true and it’s supposed to protect them (which is completely false)

Basically don’t assault anyone and you’ll be fine 🙂 Everyone knows that sex is 99% non-verbal–no one’s going to go around filling out forms, and if a girl actually asked you to do that I’d run screaming for the hills.

[Eric Disco]

If a woman signs a contract saying that she’ll sleep with you, that doesn’t mean you can just jump on her and start fucking her without regard to her actions. She’s still communicating to you with her body language whether or not she wants to continue fucking you.

And if she willingly got into bed with you and fucked you, she can’t claim that she was raped because both of you didn’t sign a document. It all comes to down to physical communication either way.

This is nothing but a smokescreen for guys who have no idea how sex happens.

Eric

[TayBurnz50]

I’m not worried about it personally, I just think it is an alarming trend. The US is becoming more and more PC and all you have to do is be accused of rape and basically your life is ruined. Then if you require the man to have all this burden of proof then he will go to jail off of accusations alone.

How can there be people that think consent contracts are a good idea? It’s like they’ve never been through the process of sex.

Tay

[MrAntiquity]

I think most people who support such things have never been through the process of healthy sex. But it gets far more media attention because the media focus on outrage. I’ve never personally met anyone who would support something like that. It’s not something you personally should worry about.

If a girl proposed something like that, I would assume that she is absolutely terrified of sex for some reason, probably because of things that happened in her past, and she would probably not be someone I’d feel comfortable being invested in.

It’s like a pre-nup. If a girl I was going to marry suggested a prenuptial agreement, that would launch a confetti of red flags.

[MrAntiquity]

Also, the “yes means yes” idea (which these contracts are a parody of) is basically a way of protecting women against sex without consent–commonly seen in things like fraternity rapes. Which do happen a lot. “Uh…I dunno..she was passed out so I thought it was ok”. This kind of bullshit from a lot of college guys DOES deserve prosecution but they usually get away with it.

If you’re not a violent drunk psychopath, and most of us aren’t, just go and get the girls and you’ll be fine. Don’t worry about the PC stuff–it won’t affect you.

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