The Reason You Can’t Succeed with Women
by 
Eric Disco
This post is from my good friend Cory Skyy.
Steve is different than most guys out there.
Steve and I are at a small dance club. Several cute girls are dancing up against him, just having a good time. I’m not surprised.
We’ve been dancing for a while. I need some fresh air so I grab him and we go outside.
On our way back in, I see a few cute girls standing over at a table near the bar. We position ourselves next to them.
Within minutes I’m talking to one of the girls. Steve is talking to one of her friends. We’re laughing and joking around about silly stuff, just getting to know one another.
Pretty soon, the girl with Steve is all over him, touching him and getting sexual.
This kind of attraction is nothing out of the ordinary for Steve.
Steve has something most other guys don’t have: a wheelchair. He’s quadriplegic.
When I first met Steve I did not know how I was going to work with him. I had never known a guy like him before.
A car accident 25 years ago left Steve wheelchair-bound. Since then, he’s been doing everything in his power to live a normal life.
Before Steve and I began working together, a night like this was completely outside of his reality.
Even though he was wheelchair-bound, he already had a lot going for him before I met him. He was positive, social and confident. But he felt there was still something missing in his life.
Steve contacted me because he wanted more choice with women.
I made sure Steve’s physical challenges did not affect my belief that I could help him become great with women. I looked beyond his physical challenge and focused on his mindset–which is at the core of my teaching.
I truly believe that I am no different than he is. If I can have it, so can he.
I worked with Steve for six months on his mindset, eye contact, and lifestyle. Through our work, he developed a strong sexual confidence that attracts women to him from across any venue.
Through powerful eye contact and presence, he communicates an edge that brings out a woman’s deepest desires. He now lives a life that most guys would only dream of.
He’s constantly sending me pictures of hot new girls he’s dating.
Women approach him everywhere he goes. It’s a normal thing for him now.
And it’s not just women that approach him. Guys come up to him and tell him they wish they could be like him.
One guy asked him where he could get a wheelchair because he thought that’s how Steve was attracting all these women.
I can assure you, the attraction has nothing to do with the wheelchair.
After about 15 minutes of talking to my girl, I turn around and see the girl with Steve straddling him. They’re making out intensely.
The girl I’m talking to is starting to get angry with me. I won’t tell her what I do for work. She is extremely persistent in trying to find out.
I keep telling her vague things like, “I am the bridge between where someone currently is and where they want to be,” or “I help guys improve their lives.”
The more time passes, the more pissed she gets. She wants a standard answer like “I’m an attorney” or “I’m a fireman.”
In the meantime, Steve and his girl are getting more and more sexual right behind us.
Eventually, Steve overhears our conversation. Even though he’s consumed in his situation, he realizes how pissed she’s getting.
He peeks his head out from around the girl on top of him–the friend of the girl I’m talking to–and yells, “Hello???? He teaches guys how to do this!!!!!”
She looks at me with a blank stare.
“Oh!” she says. She asks me a couple more questions about my business. I can feel her energy shifting radically.
She moves closer to me with every moment. We start making out.
This is what Steve and I consider just an average night. We get together on a regular basis and have a blast every time.
For Steve, anything is possible. He never let anything stop him from living the life that he desires.
If you think you have it hard–think again. There’s only one question you need to ask yourself: “What is stopping me from having what I want?”
It’s probably not what you think it is.
Take care,
Cory Skyy
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Cameron, I’m not being a troll. I’m just being honest with Paul. He will fail due to wanting to fail, and now that I know he is a Christian, he will fail just because he is a Christian. I know because I watched guys in the church who were like us for most of my life(and I denounced Christianity 7 years ago and I am 32-I grew up in the church). The guys who didn’t have issues and they “turned it over to God”, they succeeded(got with the most attractive women in church). The guys who did have issues and they “turned it over to God” failed(got with alright looking women). End of story-these are people I PERSONALLY knew and was friends with, and I have been to churches all over the world. I would bet at least 1000 dollars on that fact if I had it-that Paul just “turning it over to God” will NOT work for him. I would lick the rim of a toilet(with the seat up) in a public restroom(if I lost the bet) because I am so sure that “god” won’t work to fix Paul’s situation. I wish that Christians would grow up and live in reality, not just with this but with finances, politics, sex, etc etc. So again Paul, if you are so sure that your “faith” is going to fix this problem, then why bother with all of this information. Quit, go back to your god, and get on with your life. Why even bother debating it with anyone? You are sure that “god” will bring you a hot woman, then just go to your god. It may take 5-10 years, but you will prove me right.
When you prove me right, your perception of reality will change so you will lie to yourself(seen guys this too). You will be with some woman who wasn’t your “dream girl” but it’s who god wanted for you. After all, it’s not what you want but what He wants for you. You will simply learn to accept this unbearable situation, and you will never once blame Jehova for you being with a woman you aren’t attracted to. You will say things like I love her despite this that or the other(IE:she’s a little chubby, but you overlook that when you really wanted that hottie who ran Sunday school who looked like a Victoria’s secret model because how you possibly defy Jehova when He didn’t want you with that Sunday school teacher) You will lie, deceive, cheat, commit adultery with your mind, all because you won’t rely on yourself to make this happen. Being with your average looking woman(not the hot Sunday school teacher), you will never love her. You will never enjoy sex(you’ll convince yourself that you do, but yet another lie because while you are boning her you’ll be thinking about the Sunday school teacher and constantly repenting for your lust). Again, this is REALITY-like it or not.
Trust me Paul, life is much more fulfilling as an Atheist. I would NEVER go back if some fundie nutcase stuck a gun in my mouth trying to force me to denounce my Atheism. I HATE Christianity, but I love Christians so no offense to you as a human being, I just despise your religion.
Cameron, if you mean me putting Paul down, by calling me a troll, then ok I’ll stop talking to Paul. I almost NEVER talk to people like I have to him, I normally try to uplift people and encourage people. But the way I see it just from watching him posting things, maybe he needs someone to piss him off bad enough that he will do what it takes to fix this problem. I wouldn’t wish failure with women on ANY man no matter if I truly hated that person. I would rather help my worst male enemy to get good talking to women than to tear them down but if tearing them down helped them to take action, then by all means I’ll do it.
Something leads me to believe Paul is deeply insecure. Confidence is not bull and neither is eye contact, etc. You ask how women can be attracted this way when they have an “ideal type?” Allow me to use a martial arts analogy. You can be physically fit as heck, but if you’re fighting a fat guy trained in only one thing–kicking ppl’s ass–the buff guy will lose if he himself is not a martial artist. It’s technique. Furthermore, in the heat of the moment, there are never clean fights. Even martial art masters don’t fight with perfect form and most things go out the window except innate reactions. This is the SAME THING as women when they are sexually aroused. They DON’T GIVE A SHIT about anything else if you are doing things right. So stop with the self-victimizing role and what I hate most is making all women out to be superficial. I know many girl friends who are very pretty and look beyond physical attributes. Women are not as shallow as you make them out to be.
Amen brother Jay! Any time I have talked down to an unrealistically attractive woman(getting passed all the anxiety and nervousness, and frankly I have been working on myself all week and it is getting easier at school to just start conversations) like I was her dad asking her things like “have you been a good girl today?” sounding like I was talking to a 12 year old, oh my GOD! The reactions. Priceless. Guarantee you that there are very few guys at school if any who are acting like that(just taking a look around at what other guys do). I have figured this much out, tell these women what to do(without being too much of a dick about it). Tell them confidently to write their number down. I have done this about 3 or 4 times this week, and I’ll be damned, they WRITE IT DOWN!!! I will NEVER ask for a woman’s number again. Jay, I LOVE the martial arts analogy! I have chanted Nam-myoho-renge-kyo for at least 12 hours over the last three or four days to not have any anxiety whatsoever when approaching a woman and it has started becoming fairly easy(not total cold approaches, but that will be the next challenge). As you know with eastern philosophy like what Bruce Lee said to his student at the beginning of Enter the Dragon, that there is no enemy, there is no I, the idea if I am not mistaken was that the martial artist moves their strike out and the nonexistent enemy(who is just particles that are a manifestation of the Law of cause and effect) comes to the fist. They are attracted to that persons fist due to being in a fight with that person(maybe I am way off on the analogy, but I am sure from what you said up there you have a good idea of what I’m trying to get at). I also think that the number of women that are as shallow as guys like Paul believe is very small. Even if there were in reality a lot of them, I personally would change myself on the outside to get passed that. I know that’s not reality, and I wouldn’t want one like that(maybe just sleep with her a few times and spank her for being so shallow while I have my cock buried inside of her), if I were Paul I would start going to the gym and get built like a god damn brick wall and maybe get some plastic surgery(if it is that big of an issue for him). One less excuse for me to make if I believed like he does. Thank you Jay.
One other thing, how should my eye contact be Jay? I have been attempting to hold eye contact a little too long when talking to them, until they drop their eyes from mine as a sign of submission to me. Any suggestions cause sometimes I feel as though I am glaring at them and it kind of creeps me out. I feel sleezy when doing it.
This is getting funnier. Look I do not expect God to give me a hot girlfriend – not at all. I was just saying it sort of tongue in cheek but also in a way the “you never know” what can happen. I do believe in miracles so call me crazy but I am sure they happen (just look at D-Day or certain events in history for goodness sakes).
@Jay so you say some hot women are not shallow? I guess that could be true but I would say that the super majority are. Why? Well they can and if you think about it most have been catered too during their lives so there is a true sense of entitlement along with dissillusionment and what the media may influence.
Again, its all evolution guys. If you preach evolution, live by it. Do not water it down. Hot women will go with good looking or guys with some kind of value. Why? Well they have something to gain from it. Game or whatever we call this thing (I think it was “charm” in the old days) is just a carnival show. Its a nice try but overall you rarely see hot women with so so guys (unless they are wealthy or status). You see them with hot guys.
Last night I was at a local place and I would say there were about 200 people there with at least 8 hot women there. Everyone of them except one (who works there and was just hanging out) were with taller, good looking guys. Everyone. And this is not uncommon. Its evolution. We are slaves to it.
So yes Jay, women are shallow on the whole at least with looks. Your martial arts thing is an interesting way to look at it, but overall it still does not get to the heart of it. Its the woman that has the control. She can pick who she wants when and where. In a martial arts fight, you really do not have control.
Then I’m going to ask you this Paul. Do you have the balls to go up to the hottest woman in the club and TELL her to give you her number(after talking to her for a few minutes)? Most of these women you are talking about that you call shallow, guess what? Many of them have low self esteem and they are LONELY which is why they get themselves done up with makeup and what not. Better yet, can you go up to her, tap her on the shoulder, turn her around and start talking to her? I am only 5′ 9” and a half, not ripped anymore, have a face somewhere between Jason Stathom and Bruce Willis, going bald(but I shave my head), am 32(but still look 23-24). I have figured this much out, women period will most likely do what you TELL them to(why do you think those women that followed someone like Charles Manson around followed him around not that I want to be like him). I will say it again to you, I am assuming that you are below average in looks otherwise this wouldn’t be an issue for you(or maybe you just obsess over it WAY too much). Just go get built like a brick wall(so all of those pretty boys will back down from you when you steal their girl from them because you can kick their ass and they know it, you have the power if you are BIGGER than them-if you get big enough to pick up the back end of her boyfriends diesel truck with your bare hands, she’ll jump your dick, not his), and if you have an average face, that’s what plastic surgery is for. Many women, that is if you are willing to do this and NEVER back down, tell them what they are going to do CONFIDENTLY. Don’t be mean about it, if they are talking to a couple of guys at the club just take your happy ass over there, grab her by the shoulder, turn her around, and start talking to her. If you have the balls to do that(I’m still working on it myself) but I’d bet all the money I have ever made in my life that you will be sleeping with someone who looks like Megan Fox eventually. As much of an asshole as I have acted towards you, I don’t care what you look like. If you have the balls to act like that given that you are well dressed and groomed, then I’d bet my money on your success.
@Daddy Give up, dude. You are talking to a man who is going to continue whining forever. We have all posted our stories of success, studies (our own and those of established academics), references to sophisticated analyses showing why evolution doesn’t just favor the good looking and tall, actual age preferences taken at random from online profiles of women, etc., etc. Paul is here to rationalize his own failure. You are wasting your time arguing with him. Eventually, you will see that it is useless. Take solace in the fact that most of us agree with you. –Lee
Daddy,
Yeah I have gone up to the hottest women at clubs. Still do from time to time but not as often as I used too. Hell, I have done it at The Hard Rock Vegas during their infamous Sunday afternoon pool parties, clubs in Vegas, NYC, Chicago, Miami, Chicago, even London and nothing but blowouts. I have tried it all and yes I guess I am using evolution to rationalize this. I have tried it all and its no go.
I dress very well. A bit of classy English Laundry, Polo, Ralph Lauren, Perry Ellis, nice leather boots or shoes – what ever fits the occasion. Think George Clooney with a bit of “rock” to it. I actually get alot of good comments on my dress. No numbers but good comments lol. Sometimes a great blazer with a cool t-shirt, dark jeans (and/or stylish), nice dark leather boots. It just does not work.
But I am always trying to see what does. I have to battle evolution for it favors the handsome, tall and young.
Lee,
it’s tough for me to just not say anything because like David DeAngelo, I really want to help people(even if I have to be an asshole at times to do it). I guess what kills me with a guy like him is that was me. I sat on Double Your Dating, Self Talk, etc etc, for about 10 years doing exactly what he is doing. It was horrible. Religious people(Christian or Buddhist) were always coming down on me about me wanting to be a pick up artist(and there I was always seeking their approval). It hurts me to see the things that he is typing. I hate that for him. I believe in people’s potential no matter where they are. I used to believe just like him(as far as women). I would blatantly ignore the fact that there were more unrealistically gorgeous women who were with average joe’s then there were with pretty boys. To my eyes, all of those guys no matter how ugly they were looked handsome like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt(even if they looked like Gene Simmons) which fed into my warped self image. I used to say I was the ugliest guy on the planet which was the cause of my failure to get the hotties. If a hottie came onto me once in a while they had ulterior motives. I am not desirable enough. I am not tall enough. I am not in shape enough. I don’t make enough money. The list goes on and on. I hate seeing people do exactly what I used to because I know from experience that in the middle of it, it looks totally real. It feels totally real. It is a mental loop that unless a person chooses to do the work to break it, they are a slave to it. If I had female friends who told me I’m handsome(when they couldn’t understand why I was depressed over my situation which logically I should have no trouble attracting a hottie), that hottie they spoke of(who at times smiled at me) didn’t come over to my face and tell me I was handsome. My average female friend obviously thought differently than that hottie over there, so she doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Even if the hottie came over and told me what I wanted to hear, someone had to have put her up to it. Someone had to have paid her to say it to insult my dire circumstances. Been there, done that. I read what he types and it actually breaks my heart to see someone in my old situation. It’s hell…
Also wanted to add, these women are only lonely if they want to be lonely. If they are lonely, it is for they want to be lonely or they are just crazy. Most are not. They get all done up for that is part of their psyche. Its part of their life. They dress up for themselves to feel good and for other chicks. Its a bit competitive in those circles. These chicks are out to meet the best and beautiful. This is why Mystery Method is such a crock of crap. Guys will try this stuff (like I did and various friends) and it goes nowhere. These chicks see thru it and they actually laugh at guys. And they are right, its funny. Game is bullcrap. Totally. Its not natural nor follows evolution.
Paul,
here’s a suggestion just from what you have said. Maybe you need a new look. Trial and error. Also something I was told and despite what I typed before I do believe this to a point. We put off vibes, give people feelings. If no matter what I am doing behavior wise people still react a certain way to me, maybe I need to “change my frequency”. When I was a Nichiren Buddhist(which I still practice because it works though I don’t consider myself to have a religion persay), if I wanted people to act differently towards me at work for instance, I would chant focusing in my minds eye better interactions with them(I have no joke had people who the hateful feelings between us were obviously mutual, they started treating me like their buddy which freaked me out but I wasn’t complaining). I might chant for two hours a day. Then at some point in the future(sometimes the next day, sometimes months later) people started mysteriously treating me differently. That is because the “I” that I perceive to exist and my environment are symbiotic. What happens to me on the inside affects my environment. Like when you get in the “zone” and people act warmer towards you. That is a good example. So if you were putting off these bad vibes no matter what you are doing, that might be why things aren’t going anywhere. If I am putting off the vibes that I am worthless and I am not the dominate male(no matter how much I act like one) it will come across as an act and fake when logically it SHOULD work. We aren’t just dealing with observable behavior, we are more dealing with the underlying stuff that we don’t perceive, at least that is the conclusion I am slowly beginning to accept and when I used to be a Soka Gakkai member, people tried to tell me that but I wouldn’t listen.
One other thing, if we believe something bad enough(like hot women only date tall men because they are superficial), we will create that reality. Reality exists only in the mind of the perceiver. Everything outside of us is merely virtual reality that gets filtered through our nervous system. What we perceive as laws(physics, mating, etc etc) are all particles. It is possible to bend those laws by changing ourselves on the inside. Obviously if I was missing an arm for instance, I don’t believe I could just believe it is still there and it will regrow, but if I believe it is possible to regrow the limb(as scientists do) then I would set myself on the path of trying to figure out how DNA works so I could manipulate it. If I believe that only handsome men get hotties, then if it were me, I wouldn’t complain about my situation, I personally would get plastic surgery which would change how I feel, and change the vibes I put off therefore changing my reality.
@Daddy He doesn’t want to change. He wants a reason for accepting his failure. Evidence, logic, testimonials – they are all useless. You are wasting your energy, dude. We’ve all been there. –Lee
Got it. I just wrote about 2 more self talk routines for approaching women. The only thing I notice that I am worrying about is the “what if” question of whether the opener destroys my chance with her. I decided to tell goofy assed stories when I approach them just because other guys aren’t doing that. Like how I saw a video on the net about a woman who taught her cat to eat with chopsticks. If she still gives me her number(doing the three minute email number technique that David D. teaches) then it means that she does actually want me. You got any suggestions Lee? This is mostly concerning cold approaches. Warm approaches are obvious(in class, at work, etc etc). I’ll just leave Paul alone because he just seems to be a psychic vampire. I had a friend who was a psychic vampire and I worked with her for a little over two years and she didn’t want to do what it took for her to change. I no longer talk to her at all because I have moved on with my life. People like her are pitiful but oh well, not my problem.
@Daddy I open with weird shit all the time so yes, I’m a fan. Tell me the three minute email number thing first. Just curious. Not sure I am familiar with it. –Lee
You want studies, here is a link to an online study that uses a very sophisticated statistical analysis on a very large data set of both men and women to show that they are less concerned with looks than men are: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.61.4010.
Ok Lee I read a part(ok a very tiny one) of the study but found nothing of the sort. What I found is this:
In fact, the looks ratings variable has the largest impact on
outcomes among all variables used in the Poisson regression analysis. Men and women in the lowest decile receive only about half as many e-mails as members whose rating is in the fourth decile, while the users in the top decile are contacted about twice as often.
Overall, the relationship between outcomes and looks is similar for men and women.
Height matters for both men and women. Women like tall men (¯gure 5.4). Men in the 6’3″-6’4″ range, for example, receive about 60% more ¯rst contact e-mails than men in the 5’7″-5’8″ range.
Yep I know that you can do extraordinaly good despite not being Brad Pit for example. (Neil Strauss being a bit shorter than me but still being one of the best)
But where is the part in THIS exact study which shows that women care less about looks than men do.
This is not crucial but if someone could post that I would be grateful. (A confidence boost is what I am in need of :D)
Thank you great folks,
Zhelyazko
Sorry for the lack of quotation marks. Forgot them in the comment and it would not let me edit it. Hope it is not a hindrance.
Lee,
the three minute email and phone technique is really simple. You talk to a woman for about three minutes. I want to start with an insulting compliment IE:your hair sure looks pretty today. So who helped you fix it up, your mother? (shake her hand), I’m just an asshole who pretends to be a nice guy. Or, (chick that is scantaly dressed), “well aren’t we a tasty treat!” “Don’t you look yummy today, what did daddy say when you walked out the door half naked” etc etc.
then proceed to tell a story, read her palm, etc etc.
After about three minutes, tell her I have to go but it has been nice talking to her. She is expecting me to hover like most guys do and is probably thinking “what the hell”. As I leave, turn around and ask “Do you have email?” Who doesn’t, but she’ll say yes. If she says no, “Do you have electricity?” Anyway, when she says yes, give her a piece of paper and tell her to write her email address down. As she is writing it, tell her to write her number down. Then ask her something like “so is this your real number or fake number?”
Zhelyazko,
that wouldn’t surprise me though because the physical does play a part in attraction(albeit, looks to us is like personality to a woman). The thing all of us need to NOT do, is to use it as an excuse to not approach. I have done that before. Had a good interaction going with a hottie, then some guys came up who were well over six foot tall, pretty boys, and I walked away because how can I compete with their height. My friend who had also been talking to them was pissed with me, he asked them who those guys were and the other girl told him they were friends of theirs. I could have boned that chick that night, but me worrying about this particular thing prevented me from taking action. I am all for getting built like a brick wall AND cultivating my cocky sense of humor, eye contact, doing what Mystery teaches, etc etc so if some guy comes along(once I master my inner game and my outer game) and he is just as good as me, I believe that being that he is in alright shape but at that point I would look like a fitness model, gee, which one is she going to jump on? Also, if I did talk to a jealous boyfriends woman, most places that people go, I would be the biggest guy there and no one would fuck with me. One less excuse to not approach. But being in that kind of shape would also send a message to her-I am disciplined, healthy, will produce the strongest offspring, I can protect her from predators, etc etc. I personally feel that many dating coaches almost blatantly ignore the external as though it is irrelevant. To a point, it is. But if a person ALSO had their outside taken care of(that is unless there were extenuating circumstances, being in a wheelchair for instance-but even then some people in wheelchairs, or amputees, get RIPPED), they would be unstoppable and no one would mess with them if they found themselves in one of those “situation” with her crazy boyfriend. Everyone has to work with the hand their dealt. Think about it, you are out at a club. You are the biggest guy there(without looking like your on steroids-about like the Green Arrow in Smallville but with about 20-30 pounds more muscle and about 6 percent body fat), you talk to this group of women who are unrealistically attractive. Then you simply point at two of them, saying “you and you, let’s go”. You pick them up cave man style and carry them out of the club to go have a threesome! Tell them that “Daddies going to take care of them tonight!” Also, the lower the body fat percentage, the bigger ones dick is!!! Think of how she will look at you when she takes your shirt off and sees a chiseled six pack! Also this all sends a message that you probably have at least some money, also some time. Getting in good shape doesn’t even take that long-Body For Life. Also, Burn the fat, feed the muscle.
Works a high percentage of the time. I will NEVER ask for a womans number again. I will ALWAYS tell them to give me their number.
@Zhelyazko You are missing the most important statistics in the tables. First, the overall factor of looks explains on average about 40% of the variance (depending on whether you look at the 2006 version or the more current version). Second, it explains about 10% of the total variance less for women than for men. There are also other stats in that table – the significance of income and education. As expected, these are also more significant for women seeking men than the other way around. No one is saying these things don’t matter, but all of these unchangeable factors together explain less than 50% of the variance. It is well within the reach of the average man to overcome all of the expectations through style, confidence, personality, etc. –Lee
@Zhelyazko This is from the 2005 version of the paper, page 19: The results from several regressions are displayed in table 5.2. Focusing on ¯rst contact
e-mails outcome variable, the full set of user attributes explains 29% of the outcome vari-ability for men, and 44% of the outcome variability for women. “Looks” has the strongest explanatory power (31% for women and 19% for men), while income and education, if used as the only regressors, explain only a much smaller fraction of the outcome variance.
In other words, looks have 60% more explanatory power for men browsing women than for women browsing men. More importantly, all attributes explain only 29% of the variance for men and 44% of the variance for women. In other words, there is less that women can do to change their situation through external factors.
Look at the little online dating experiment posted by KL in the forums. He is not a tall guy. Without his height posted. He got three responses out of 19 sent messages. With his height posted, he got zero. When he replaced his boring photos with photos of himself with girls, he got four responses even with his height posted. These are not large sample statistics but they are plausible. So much of the variance is unexplained that simply changing a few items strategically makes up for most shortcomings. That’s what we call game.
–Lee
OMG LEE ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING MATHS ALREADY!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!!!
@Cameron Zhelyazko asked, dude! I am only providing what others have asked for. Give me your address and I will send you a little four function pocket calculator so you can practice your multiplication tables :-)
Lee, I’m too cool for calculators bro, I do it all in my head to show how smart I am :-)
I had about 8 conversations with attractive women this morning and I got one phone number from a hot blonde! Just one question though. After I got a phone number, I started another conversation with this really hot brunette but she seemed standoffish. I didn’t bother trying to get her number. Was that the right move or should I have went for it anyway? Also, there is this girl that sits next to me in choir that I flirt with. Just from talking to her she seems very sheltered. She is cute, and I am always looking at her legs and ass. I want to have sex with her just once, but I am sure she is a virgin. I would feel like a piece of shit if I took advantage of her(or maybe this is all in my head due to past morals because she is obviously attracted to me, and I’m sure we could have a good time whether we had sex or not). I think I should go for it, but I don’t want to hurt her. I am not afraid to get her number, in fact I thought about it today(those legs) but she has been so sheltered.
Daddy,
That’s great. I hope something comes out of it for you with the blonde.
I myself had conversations with two pretty attractive tall blonde’s today during my lunch break. One told me that she had a boyfriend. The other just put her back to me and walked away. She dropped a canister from the salad bar and used one of the tried and true PUA lines “see now that is why we cant have good things around” and she told me to screw off.
Then I went to a local Walgreens and started two conversations – one with a really thin but busty red head and the other with a really cute Asian gal. Both told me boyfriend.
Last night I was out and had conversations with four young ladies. Two told me I was too old for them. One told me boyfriend the other told me she was currently separated.
So Lee and Daddy, I try – its not whining my friends. I mean I approach and try, try, try. So do a ton of other guys. Its trying. What is so funny with this seduction community is that if you try and fail, you are a whiner or like a leper. If you try and succeed, you are positive and a good example of pickup in general. And that’s just plain bullshit.
Interesting paradox do you not think?
Paul,
drop to 6 percent body fat and then try.
I am thinking that instead of asking for their email address I might just ask for their number and then text them before calling them. Ask them to do something over the phone(not text), but texting seems to have replaced email. I ask for email and many people don’t even use it anymore. Facebook it seems.
Also, when you were in the conversation did you ask if she was single?(if you ask that or tell them you are flirting, I did this the other day as an experiment and each one of them told me they had a boyfriend) The conversations I had went like this(standing there like I’m the MAN! almost staring into her eyes like a laser beam)This woman was easily a 9 if not 9.5:
I blatantly stopped her as she was walking and asked her:
“Do you have a personality to match your looks because if you did then I’d say you are a gem, but on the other hand if you didn’t then we’ll have to get you some etiquette 101 classes or something.” I introduced myself as an asshole who pretends to be a nice guy. She said she was a smart alek, and I said something like:
“yeah, if you had your nails done up and I told you they looked pretty, but where did you buy them from the dollar tree?”
This whole time I was standing there firmly, but to my CORE I felt the vibes going out of my body that “I am claiming you, you will listen to what I have to say”.
I told her I enjoyed talking to her, and then I turned but turned back around, held out a notebook, asked her if she had email, then told her to write her email address down, and while she was writing I told her to write her number down.
You see Paul, I felt that that part about how my CORE being felt as I was talking to her is what made this work. Other women today rejected me by acting standoffish, but this girl didn’t. Had my core not been in place, she might well have rejected me.
If my core wasn’t in place, she may still have been physically attracted to me but due to the vibes I would have put out like I used to, she would reject me. Not because she doesn’t want me physically, but because I would shoot myself in the foot very subtly.
Again I will say it Paul. Quit complaining about this, go get plastic surgery(if you actually have an issue in this department), drop to six percent body fat, then pack on about 30 pounds of muscle. I’d be willing to bet that even if you made yourself look like Tom Cruise when he was younger, that due to not having your core in place, you may get checked out a lot more than what you are now, but you will still be in more or less the same place that you are in now. Don’t believe me, try it. If I was you and had this kind of a problem, that is exactly what I would do and I would pursue it with a vengeance knocking people who got in my way(calling me shallow) down so they would get out of my way.
@Paul The only interesting paradox is that you blame your failure on forces beyond your control rather than you just plain all out sucking at this. Guess which I suspect is the cause?
Paul,
try a different approach. If the ones you are using don’t work, try different ones until you find one that does.
I would like to invite you to join me for a FREE tele-conference call next week, December 12th at 6pm EST.
This is going to be one of those calls you do NOT want to miss out on.
I have invited a special guest to speak on this call with me. This guy has been a huge inspiration to me and has developed a magnetic personality that naturally draws women to him everywhere he goes. His name is Steve; which is the guy in the article above.
I have also invited several other guys that have applied my teaching that went from your average Joe to now living a life full of beautiful women they once never thought possible for them.
We will be talking about their journey and how they got to where they are today and even go into some things that you can do personally to begin getting the results you want with women; then we will open the call up for question and answer where you will be able to ask me and other guys any questions you have.
Date: Monday, December 12th
Time: 6pm EST
Dial-in: 1-712-432-3066
Conference code: 609955
Hi Cory
Will the call be recorded, if i am busy at the time; to listen to it later.
Seriously Lee? You work at a university with 34 Nobel Prize winners, looks is 70 % of the game. So stop attacking Paul.
@jonas It’s Paul who’s implicitly attacking the integrity of all of the guys who are on here with stories of their success as a result of game. Men who didn’t get taller, didn’t get better looking, and didn’t become rich overnight are finding success with game and reporting it here. But people like you and Paul aren’t listening. You just keep repeating the same old tired line. It’s all about looks. 70%? Where did you get that figure? Here’s a paper that uses over 10,000 individual preferences to quantify how much of a woman’s interest in a man is explained by looks:
http://www.aeaweb.org/assa/2006/0106_0800_0502.pdf
It’s 38%. Looks and income explain 41%. Looks, income, and education explain 42%. All factors combined explain 49%. That leaves quite a lot of room for game, Jonas. But you’re not going to listen to hard facts, are you? You’re just going to pull 70% out of your ass. Pathetic.
Does Lee have an advantage that other guys don’t? He certainly does. But guess what? We all have advantages that other guys don’t.
If a guy wants to believe that it’s impossible, he’ll find a way to believe it. And he’ll try to get others to confirm his reason for failure.
“Well, what about a guy who doesn’t have X? It’s impossible for him,” he’ll say.
You show him evidence that a guy who doesn’t have X does well.
“Yeah, but what about a guy who doesn’t have X and Y. There’s no way.”
So you show him evidence that a guy who doesn’t have X and Y does well. Now he wants to see a guy who doesn’t have X, Y and Z. Unless some person has the perfect combination of challenges, then no one could possibly have it as hard as him.
A guy could be short, facially unattractive, bald, with a huncback, working a menial job, living in a broom closet in a rural town.
“Yes, but does he have a speech impediment? I have a speech impediment which is why I can’t succeed.”
There’s always a reason for failure.
Take any guy who’s successful with women and you could find some advantage he has that other guys don’t have. We all have that. A guy would be a fool not to use his advantage to help him out.
But the point here is that those seeming advantages are only a part of the equation–a much smaller part of the equation than guys realize. And most guys carry that lack of realization into every interaction with women, believing that they’re being judged for their looks the way they judge women.
Eric
Building on the last two posts above, here is a 48 minute presentation sexual attraction in both males and females. It says that the two most prominent female sexual cues are confidence and competence, NOT looks, muscles or large penises.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
It’s a pretty interesting video and was a little eye opening for me to watch.
The fact is that being successful with women depedds on who your going for. Guys like paul will always lose because their mindset is always on losing. As long as you think something is impossible, it is. But if you make up your mind that your goal is to bed her, your chances rise exponentially.
Guys like paul want to rationalize till their cheeks are blue, but don’t want to risk the initial pain and heartbreak we all go though when learning the art of pickup. You can certainly compare it to a martial art: practice makes perfect. One has to invest in loss to get anywhere. That may mean the first 100 girls you talk to you blow out with. The funny thing is that getting rejected on a regular basis makes you more immune to rejection and thus makes you willing to take risks, which is a big part of getting women: taking the risks.
Looks are a cop-out. Some guys are naturals. We can’t deny that. So why is that stopping you from getting off your big ass and exercising\approaching the lovely tens and taking them to paradise? its just part of the learning curve. One day, after all your work approaching, it’ll just click. Then you’re the natural. But there is a learnig curve, and a harsh one at that.
Cconfidence is born from perseverace. Are you going to be that chode that makes 5 million excuses, or are you going to go out there and take blows?
Mettaworld baby.
Mettaworldpeace – Sounds like you and Lee have had a lot of friends who happened to be female. That seems to be a common denominator
in the points that you both bring to the table. Is there a correlation between having female friends, and therefore, “practice” in simple, everyday conversation with the opposite sex that helps?
When I initially commented I appear to have clicked the -Notify me when new
comments are added- checkbox and from now on each time a comment is added I receive four emails with the same comment.
Is there a way you can remove me from that service?
Kudos!