I completely agree. A real man has no reason to fight. I can see a woman throwing a tantrum to test a man’s response, even doing it without knowing why she’s doing it. But the proper response to tantrums is not yelling. A real man would shake his head, smile, and say something like “I am leaving.” No explanations. After a few of these, the tantrums would stop.

–Lee

but theres so much too this little diagram, I certainly have seen myself in John, and I know a lot of guys have too (not that half of them would be willing to admit it),

for me it comes down to blaming Sara versus taking responsibility.

I choose to take responsibility.

OK. I was interpreting it to mean that intellectuals are, essentially, phony. Which isn’t true. But yeah–people who ARE phony are, indeed, worthy of scorn, so I agree with you there.

But I do feel like Sara is deriding a whole class of people based on one guy who is, sadly, unable to voice his feelings or act on them.

Of course….for crying out loud SHE’S A STICK FIGURE!!! :)

‘Being intellectual means someone who is afraid of other human beings and has decided to distance himself from them as a way of avoiding the domination of realising he isn’t as cool as everyone else, that he is in fact strange and inferior.”

This is an (gross) generalisation and is a bit of a silly statement on my part. I take it back.

“No the intellectual who pretends to love books because he secretly wants to bang hot chicks is no worse than other guys , but hes certainly no better.”

This makes perfect sense (at least to me) and I stand by this statement 100%.

If I may offer my opinion on your comment directed at Lee:

My interpretation of Saras comments is that she doesnt hate intellectuals generally, she just hates cowardly men who are afraid to express their emotions.

Her statements about intellectuals aren’t necessarily meant to refer to intellectuals as a whole, only to John.

Or if they are aimed at intellectuals she means specifically those intellectuals who are afraid of “putting themselves out there” and are basically weak bitter men who do nothing while jealously watching “dumb” guys date the women they secretly want (but rationalise they dont want, that the women are shallow or bad for dating the “savage” men).

My interpretation is that Sara would have nothing against dating an intellectual who possessed the qualities she desires in a mate.

I mean…er…what?

To be honest, it’s a bit hard to take you seriously because of this:

‘Being intellectual means someone who is afraid of other human beings and has decided to distance himself from them as a way of avoiding the domination of realising he isn’t as cool as everyone else, that he is in fact strange and inferior.

No the intellectual who pretends to love books because he secretly wants to bang hot chicks is no worse than other guys , but hes certainly no better.’

I mean…er…what?

And to be honest–you’re actually right in terms of what happened between me and that girl 10 years ago. But that was also 10 years ago. And a lot of it was my fault–yes. But she had lots of issues too.

@Lee–

I don’t like Sara because while she is right–in part–about this guy (who really is a pathetic loser), she also draws lots of false attributions which really hold little basis in reality. She equates ‘intellectual’ with spineless, calculating, pathetic, etc–and she places no value on them. She doesn’t unify sex with any potentially interesting attributes that guys might have to offer in addition to sexuality…. this PARTICULAR guy in the cartoon is, unfortunately, completely asexual and she’s right to call him on it. But there’s a lot that she doesn’t understand as well. I know a ton of ‘intellectual’ guys who women are attracted to–in large part–BECAUSE they’re interesting, and knowledgable, and adventurous, and can educate the girl. I myself have dated several who were attracted to me for those reasons.

This girl is rabidly anti-intellectual–she can’t meld a guy’s mind with sexuality. Those are some reasons why I don’t respect her–although again, she DOES offer some important advice for that particular character.

Women dislike men who use subterfuge of any kind. It’s weak. If I take girls for rides in my Ferrari but never make a move because I’m afraid of rejection, it is very unlikely that my Ferrari will compensate for my fear. On the other hand, an intellectual who takes chances and is not afraid to make his intentions known is very attractive to women.

Women love smart men. Why shouldn’t they? Intelligence is highly correlated with evolutionary success. Why wouldn’t nature give women the ability to detect it? There was a recent article in Slate – Why Are Smart People Usually Ugly? – that disproved the title’s fallacy and talked about a small positive correlation between looks and intelligence, which is another way of saying that even people who are not intelligent are attracted to the intelligent. Here it is:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2012/01/are_smart_people_ugly_the_explainer_s_2011_question_of_the_year_.html

The problem with the “intellectual” in the cartoon – in fact, we don’t know if he’s a thinker at all – is that he is using his self perceived special status as an excuse not to take action. I’ve been there. When I was young, there were girls I hung out with for years without telling them I was attracted. It was pathetic. I told myself all sorts of stories. The world didn’t understand me. I was too smart for the average woman. One day they’d see what a mistake they’d made. And the truth, all along was that I was just too weak and too scared to take action.

–Lee

No the intellectual who pretends to love books because he secretly wants to bang hot chicks is no worse than other guys , but hes certainly no better.

as for your argument that that why a guy should be able to rely on his personality rather than his assets…….lol you sound so fucking naive dude, why dont you find yourself a nice ugly fat girl and date her because of her wonderful personality? Or is it that secretly your just as superficial as everyone else?

You know there’s this mediocre looking girl at work who really fancies me and has tried to kiss me a couple of times, have i kissed her to make her feel better? Nope and im not going too either.

Why should I?