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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://approachanxiety.com/2007/03/why-the-nice-guy-fears-approaching-women/comment-page-3/#comment-40801</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 19:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a way about me that gets women interested, but I don&#039;t know how to push it, whats the first thing I should say that would also let them know I&#039;m interested? It&#039;s always seemed unclassy to me to just &quot;go for it&quot; I&#039;ve done the whole &quot;chat them up&quot; thing but afterwards I back down since I wasn&#039;t really being myself and my sole purpose was to get them interested. This all seems like shit to me. I&#039;d rather be a good person and make a girl happy. Thats always been the greatest reward to me. Sex is disposable but it&#039;s a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a way about me that gets women interested, but I don&#8217;t know how to push it, whats the first thing I should say that would also let them know I&#8217;m interested? It&#8217;s always seemed unclassy to me to just &#8220;go for it&#8221; I&#8217;ve done the whole &#8220;chat them up&#8221; thing but afterwards I back down since I wasn&#8217;t really being myself and my sole purpose was to get them interested. This all seems like shit to me. I&#8217;d rather be a good person and make a girl happy. Thats always been the greatest reward to me. Sex is disposable but it&#8217;s a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: blono</title>
		<link>http://approachanxiety.com/2007/03/why-the-nice-guy-fears-approaching-women/comment-page-3/#comment-40762</link>
		<dc:creator>blono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 05:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard anti-nice-guy essays, rants, and random postings from a variety of different perspectives, and this seems to be one of the less derogatory ones, with a nicer(ha), more rational community backing it up. But it still has the fundamental problem that all the others had.... a failure to define exactly what a &quot;nice guy&quot; is. Is a &quot;nice guy&quot; the pathetic, out of shape little doormat who constantly tries to be friendly with every women nearby, but secretly harbors dreams of rape, as is claimed elsewhere? Is it a person with good intentions who is simply to much of a coward to take an approach that puts him out of his comfort zone? Is it someone who is dedicated to some utilitarian code of ethics, perhaps handicapped by deception, deliberate or otherwise, of his moral calculus? Is it just someone who wants to be kind to others?
     Defining &quot;nice guy&quot; is critical, or else one runs the risk of missing the intended audience, or even of some particularly nasty equivocations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard anti-nice-guy essays, rants, and random postings from a variety of different perspectives, and this seems to be one of the less derogatory ones, with a nicer(ha), more rational community backing it up. But it still has the fundamental problem that all the others had&#8230;. a failure to define exactly what a &#8220;nice guy&#8221; is. Is a &#8220;nice guy&#8221; the pathetic, out of shape little doormat who constantly tries to be friendly with every women nearby, but secretly harbors dreams of rape, as is claimed elsewhere? Is it a person with good intentions who is simply to much of a coward to take an approach that puts him out of his comfort zone? Is it someone who is dedicated to some utilitarian code of ethics, perhaps handicapped by deception, deliberate or otherwise, of his moral calculus? Is it just someone who wants to be kind to others?<br />
     Defining &#8220;nice guy&#8221; is critical, or else one runs the risk of missing the intended audience, or even of some particularly nasty equivocations.</p>
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		<title>By: Jt</title>
		<link>http://approachanxiety.com/2007/03/why-the-nice-guy-fears-approaching-women/comment-page-3/#comment-40600</link>
		<dc:creator>Jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please do. Suggestions would be helpful. Thanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do. Suggestions would be helpful. Thanx.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://approachanxiety.com/2007/03/why-the-nice-guy-fears-approaching-women/comment-page-3/#comment-40598</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jt

If you have successfully lost thirty pounds, you have done something that is as difficult to do as it is to get better with women. Think about what it took. You changed your diet. If you eat three meals every day, it means you changed your behavior for at least an hour and a half every day. If you went to the gym three times every week and spent an hour there and half an hour of travel time, it means you&#039;ve changed your behavior for four and a half hours every week. You probably read some literature on what it takes to lose weight or how to exercise. And maybe you even hired a personal trainer. This is the kind of commitment you will have to make to getting better with women.

Is it worth it? To me, there are three pillars of a full, rich life - personal, family, and work. Having a desirable woman in my life fully overlaps two of those. Family also covers my relatives, so only part of that is my own family, the quest for my own wife and children. And not all of my personal life is social. Some of it is reading, movies, hobbies, etc. Nevertheless, I would guess that my satisfaction with my romantic life is responsible for about a third of my overall satisfaction with my life. That&#039;s a heck of a lot, and if you&#039;re like me, you&#039;re leaving a lot of happiness on the table if you don&#039;t address that need.

So, how far should you be willing to go to achieve happiness in one third of your life? Suppose that the rest of my life is perfect and I determine that certain elements of my life are obstacles to being 50% happier - in other words, I am two thirds as happy as I can be. How far would I go to change things? Pretty damn far. I would move, take up a new hobby, change how I dress, learn how to approach women, etc. I may even sacrifice some part of my life to make this happen. In other words, say I make a decent salary but have no desirable women in my life. I might forego a big promotion to make more time to meet women. This is not irrational. We&#039;re talking about a third of my happiness!

You want actual suggestions for what steps you should take? I will gladly weigh in.

--Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jt</p>
<p>If you have successfully lost thirty pounds, you have done something that is as difficult to do as it is to get better with women. Think about what it took. You changed your diet. If you eat three meals every day, it means you changed your behavior for at least an hour and a half every day. If you went to the gym three times every week and spent an hour there and half an hour of travel time, it means you&#8217;ve changed your behavior for four and a half hours every week. You probably read some literature on what it takes to lose weight or how to exercise. And maybe you even hired a personal trainer. This is the kind of commitment you will have to make to getting better with women.</p>
<p>Is it worth it? To me, there are three pillars of a full, rich life &#8211; personal, family, and work. Having a desirable woman in my life fully overlaps two of those. Family also covers my relatives, so only part of that is my own family, the quest for my own wife and children. And not all of my personal life is social. Some of it is reading, movies, hobbies, etc. Nevertheless, I would guess that my satisfaction with my romantic life is responsible for about a third of my overall satisfaction with my life. That&#8217;s a heck of a lot, and if you&#8217;re like me, you&#8217;re leaving a lot of happiness on the table if you don&#8217;t address that need.</p>
<p>So, how far should you be willing to go to achieve happiness in one third of your life? Suppose that the rest of my life is perfect and I determine that certain elements of my life are obstacles to being 50% happier &#8211; in other words, I am two thirds as happy as I can be. How far would I go to change things? Pretty damn far. I would move, take up a new hobby, change how I dress, learn how to approach women, etc. I may even sacrifice some part of my life to make this happen. In other words, say I make a decent salary but have no desirable women in my life. I might forego a big promotion to make more time to meet women. This is not irrational. We&#8217;re talking about a third of my happiness!</p>
<p>You want actual suggestions for what steps you should take? I will gladly weigh in.</p>
<p>&#8211;Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. What you say makes sense. I have made a couple of changes. One: joining a photo arts group. Two: losing thirty pounds and working out three times a week. Beyond that I wouldn&#039;t know where to begin changing to meet women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. What you say makes sense. I have made a couple of changes. One: joining a photo arts group. Two: losing thirty pounds and working out three times a week. Beyond that I wouldn&#8217;t know where to begin changing to meet women.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jt

I never had that natural confidence you talk about. Women never threw themselves at me. When I was your age, I took a workshop that opened my eyes to the possibilities. With some success came more confidence, and with more confidence, more success. Your argument  - that people should be accepted for who they are - makes sense if people are also happy with what they have. Meaning, if I love food that makes me fat and being fat makes me less attractive to women, you wouldn&#039;t really argue that I should expect women to overlook that I am fat, would you? It is I who should accept that I have made a lifestyle choice that makes me less attractive to women. Just as it is you who should accept that where you live, your interests, your insistence that you shouldn&#039;t be expected to change are all factors that limit your choice with women.

--Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jt</p>
<p>I never had that natural confidence you talk about. Women never threw themselves at me. When I was your age, I took a workshop that opened my eyes to the possibilities. With some success came more confidence, and with more confidence, more success. Your argument  &#8211; that people should be accepted for who they are &#8211; makes sense if people are also happy with what they have. Meaning, if I love food that makes me fat and being fat makes me less attractive to women, you wouldn&#8217;t really argue that I should expect women to overlook that I am fat, would you? It is I who should accept that I have made a lifestyle choice that makes me less attractive to women. Just as it is you who should accept that where you live, your interests, your insistence that you shouldn&#8217;t be expected to change are all factors that limit your choice with women.</p>
<p>&#8211;Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Jt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could join all the photo groups but the make up could be the same. Besides where would I find the time to attend them all between work, gym three nights a week and hockey games during that season.  Surrounded by women huh? You obviously have something else going on you are not saying.  Has to be a special reason.  As for confidence, not all men can have super confidence because we are all different. Just like women. For women to expect that men become carbon copies of one another is ludicrous. Men and women should be accepted as they are with all their faults. Guys that have that superconfidence have it because women threw themselves at them to begin with. This one I know for a fact as I had friend for years who had this. I saw firsthand the ego this created and how women became disposable to him.  This is why I believe superconfidence is unnecessary. I will not lower myself to be that kind of man. I am only somewhat confident but it suits me. Egomania doesn&#039;t. If you are wondering about the gym. There are attractive women there but most women there are jersey shore types and unworthy of any attention from me.  I live in ri and there are not many options to meet women here. So to sum up what you said yeah I am screwed.  I would like to have a woman in my life and a family of my own but because I refuse to be a cookie cutter man the odds are extremely slim.  Btw. Notice that I do not berate or hate women. Nor will I do so as the women I have gotten close to have been great to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could join all the photo groups but the make up could be the same. Besides where would I find the time to attend them all between work, gym three nights a week and hockey games during that season.  Surrounded by women huh? You obviously have something else going on you are not saying.  Has to be a special reason.  As for confidence, not all men can have super confidence because we are all different. Just like women. For women to expect that men become carbon copies of one another is ludicrous. Men and women should be accepted as they are with all their faults. Guys that have that superconfidence have it because women threw themselves at them to begin with. This one I know for a fact as I had friend for years who had this. I saw firsthand the ego this created and how women became disposable to him.  This is why I believe superconfidence is unnecessary. I will not lower myself to be that kind of man. I am only somewhat confident but it suits me. Egomania doesn&#8217;t. If you are wondering about the gym. There are attractive women there but most women there are jersey shore types and unworthy of any attention from me.  I live in ri and there are not many options to meet women here. So to sum up what you said yeah I am screwed.  I would like to have a woman in my life and a family of my own but because I refuse to be a cookie cutter man the odds are extremely slim.  Btw. Notice that I do not berate or hate women. Nor will I do so as the women I have gotten close to have been great to me.</p>
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